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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2017, 12:05 »
De toutes les façons, c'était une erreur de bloquer les gens à la frontière maritime…

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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2017, 22:03 »
De toutes les façons, c'était une erreur de bloquer les gens à la frontière maritime…
Where else should refugees be blocked? Border, whether sea border or others, are there to protect the state. Refugee is who declares himself to? And borders are evil? Is that your opinion? Those who protect their own state from foreigners who do not want the state, do not explain the strangers to be evil. The strangers do not want the same as they  - that's reason enough.
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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2017, 10:43 »
À mon avis, il y a 2 aspects :
-Le problème est de bloquer des gens en si grand nombre.
-Le problème en arrière n'est pas les réfugiés, mais les passeurs qui sont à la fois commerciaux, recruteurs, trafiquants, mafieux…

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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 11:52 »
À mon avis, il y a 2 aspects :
-Le problème est de bloquer des gens en si grand nombre.
-Le problème en arrière n'est pas les réfugiés, mais les passeurs qui sont à la fois commerciaux, recruteurs, trafiquants, mafieux…

You are part of the problem . You blame the British for the maritime border . That makes it easier for people smugglers to do business. The smugglers are paid by the "refugees", but we feel responsible for the success of the "escape"? What an escape is for those can be for the other occupation . That's how I see it . Humans have always been human's enemy because they always try to solve problems at the expense of others.
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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2018, 12:27 »
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Humans have always been human's enemy because they always try to solve problems at the expense of others.

ça c'est la phrase de l'année 2017, malheureusement…

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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2018, 12:39 »
@selber   
ça c'est la phrase de l'année 2017, malheureusement…
I'm not proud of it. But I think the sentence is true. Wherever the question remains - who is we and who are the others.

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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2018, 19:54 »


Northern France’s parallel Brexit talks.

Politicians and officials on either side of the Channel get together to tackle big border challenges.

From; https://www.politico.eu/article/northern-frances-parallel-brexit-talks/

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PARIS — The French region with most to lose from Brexit is not just relying on Brussels for a good deal — it has taken matters into its own hands.

In Brexit negotiations running in parallel with the official EU-U.K. talks in Brussels, senior French politicians and civil servants have met repeatedly with high-level British counterparts to discuss the impact of Brexit on coastal economies and France’s northern ports, according to French officials involved directly.

The goal is to avoid a deal that would harm regional economies on either side of the Channel by working out some issues away from the main Brexit negotiations, but also to make sure national politicians and the Brexit negotiating teams don’t neglect their interests.



It would appear that common sense is prevailing over UK and EU posturing; about time.

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Re: BREXIT or NOT?
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2018, 10:19 »
@coffejohn
For me it is clear that the Brexit will harm the relations between the coasts. I can not imagine any avoidance except for an extra sausage for these regions. That would be at the expense of the rest of the EU.Free trade between the coasts would be an exception. An exception would be an unfair advantage. However, if the exception applies to everyone , then not. But a rule for the entire EU must be worked out by the whole EU.